Grateful Dead Live at Pacific High Recording on 1968-11-06
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- Publication date
- 1968-11-06 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Soundboard, Todd Evans, Jamie Waddell, GEMS
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
2. Dark Star>first notes of St. Stephen
3. St. Stephen attempt into William Tell Transition
4 St. Stephen attempt into William Tell Transition
5. St. Stephen attempt into William Tell Transition
6. St. Stephen>
7. William Tell> fast aborted Eleven.
8. Jerry Describes William Tell transition.. "kind of soundslike a BagPipe...."
9. Burp! (sounds like Phil)...Jerry plays the Drums to Show Billy Triplets... "ya come up with yer right hand here..see"!
10. St. Stephen(cut attempt)
11. St. Stephen - starts with "lady finger..."
12. "you'll tell by this lick...2-3-4" Garcia
13. Stephen Verses explained by Garcia
14. St. Stephen "OK, from the top..2-3-4"-Garcia (aborted)
15. "hey could we have some more monitors please...more monitor..turn the monitors up"- Weir.
16. 2-3-4.... St Stephen (complete)>
17. William Tell(complete finally) > The Eleven
18. "every time..bullshit.. every time..It happens every time man?" Bob and Jerry gets a lesson from Phil.
19. Tuning stuff
20. last notes of Stephen > transition work into The Eleven. Ends with, �thats the trouble with having schitzophrenic drummers�- Garcia
21 The Eleven Practiced.
22. Garcia is NOT giving up!
23.Phil says... �on the subdivisions of the Eleven, we are dropping ONES all over the place..we are dropping the beat.� They practice.
24. �so play yer lick, play yer whole lick� Garcia...Eleven Practiced. Garcia says,� Im sorry; you got it right..I�m fucking up�
25.Phil Leads The Beat with a thumping Bass. Big.. �awwww fuck� from Garcia.
26. Band discusses the practice session and tries it once more. �you�ll notice its not exactly even�- Garcia (speaking of the polyrhythmic nature of The Eleven)
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Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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Lovelight | |||
Dark Star>first notes of St. Stephen | |||
St. Stephen attempt into William Tell Transition | |||
St. Stephen attempt into William Tell Transition | |||
St. Stephen attempt into William Tell Transition | |||
St. Stephen> | |||
William Tell> fast aborted Eleven. | |||
Jerry Describes William Tell transition.. | |||
Burp! (sounds like Phil)...Jerry plays the Drums to Show Billy Triplets... | |||
St. Stephen(cut attempt) | |||
St. Stephen - starts with | |||
you'll tell by this lick...2-3-4 | |||
Stephen Verses explained by Garcia | |||
St. Stephen | |||
hey could we have some more monitors please...more monitor..turn the monitors up | |||
2-3-4.... St Stephen (complete)> | |||
William Tell(complete finally) > The Eleven | |||
every time..bullshit.. every time..It happens every time man? | |||
Tuning stuff | |||
last notes of Stephen > transition work into The Eleven. Ends with, �thats the trouble with having schitzophrenic drummers�- Garcia | |||
The Eleven Practiced. | |||
Garcia is NOT giving up! | |||
Phil says... �on the subdivisions of the Eleven, we are dropping ONES all over the place..we are dropping the beat.� They practice. | |||
so play yer lick, play yer whole lick� Garcia...Eleven Practiced. Garcia says,� Im sorry; you got it right..I�m fucking up� | |||
Phil Leads The Beat with a thumping Bass. Big.. �awwww fuck� from Garcia. | |||
Band discusses the practice session and tries it once more. �you�ll notice its not exactly even�- Garcia (speaking of the polyrhythmic nature of The Eleven) |
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-This source is 81+ minutes. It is tracked for two shorter cdrs, but longer media, ie. 90 min cdrs or overburn can make this a one disc source.
-the only similar source at etree, shnid12618 is 1:14:23.960 (196860636 samples)in length, this source is 1:21:39.680 (216075888 samples) in length. I did not deduce what was missing because upon inspection i found the tracks for that shnid range from 64 kiBs mp3 to 177kiBs OGG, both lossy formats.
-this was confirmed, infact, to be 11 6 1968 by respectable traders.
-Thank Todd Evans for being a grate trader!
- Addeddate
- 2008-04-03 13:37:49
- Identifier
- gd1968-11-06.StudioRehearsals.GEMS.82393.flac16
- Lineage
- DAT > TASCAM DA-20 (spdif out) -> Apogee Wide Eye spdif interconnect -> Lynx Two Soundcard (spdif in) -> Wavelab 6.0
- Location
- San Mateo, CA
- Run time
- 81
- Source
- Reel> PCM > DAT
- Transferred by
- Editing and Mastering in Wavelab 6.0 by Jamie Waddell
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Pacific High Recording
- Year
- 1968
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Reviews
Subject: the date is wrong
Deadbase X makes this comment on the session: "What's obviously going on is that the rest of the band is teaching T.C. the material. Tom himself has corroborated this."
Listening again, this is indeed blatantly obvious. Pigpen is not on organ, and not at this rehearsal at all. Constanten is running through the songs on organ with the band.
Generally, he doesn't sound very "TC-like" yet since he mostly sticks to basic parts (like that constant Dark Star riff). He often sounds awkward & tentative in his organ playing. Ironically, Pigpen would have played these parts better and more steadily, since he'd been doing them for months! - TC has a distracting tendency to try changing the organ tone, and is uncertain about some of the song progressions.
Since TC didn't join the band until 11/23, clearly the 11/6 date is incorrect. I had this session with the date of 12/10/68, which is more likely to be the true date.
(An alternate option is that TC was on leave from the Air Force in early November and visited the band, and his joining them a few weeks later was planned well in advance, to the extent of having this rehearsal. I think this is unlikely.)
This session is, at least, proof that the Dead DID want that little riff going all through Dark Star at the time. (Garcia even makes sure that TC gets it right, playing through it with him.) It's a measure of Constanten's inventiveness that, though he's a beginner in this session, through the following months he was able to expand his Dark Star part considerably until that riff was finally abandoned.
Aside from rehearsing for Constanten's benefit, the band has much trouble with the Eleven, though it had been in the set all year and they were able to tackle it confidently at live shows!
Garcia briefly sings Lovelight as a warmup. The Dark Star is just a laid-back run-through, and the Stephen>Eleven rehearsal constantly stops & starts as the band discusses the parts (barely audibly), so this is probably not a session you'll want to listen through too often!
Subject: Billy and Jerry sound alike
I really love listening to the band work stuff out. I love thinking about how much energy they were expending to get things just exactly perfect before getting up on stage for us.
Subject: re: L. Rosley
It's fun to hear the boys in the process of rehearsing or recording.
Subject: Rehearsal for Aoxomoxoa
As with other practice sessions, it’s not as interesting as a real show. The first part of Dark Star is repetitive, but begins to move when Phil starts leading the jam.
Keyboard sounds like Tim Constenten, Pig seems to be absent.
They’re playing the Aoxomoxoa arrangement of St. Steven. Here’ they’re trying to figure out the transition into The Eleven, but of course, they gave up on that for the album.
(By the way, the original mix of Aoxomoxoa, still unavailable, is superior to what we have today. I am fortunate to have found a used copy in a Berkeley record shop in 1979, and in good condition.)
Subject: Very Nice
Peace, Bob
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